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FreewayPro_User

15 Nov 2017, 5:14 pm

Spammer App -- The next SoftPress App !

Given all the “Allowed Spam” across the entire freewaytalk forum (congrats @waltd), maybe SoftPress should focus their efforts and instead create a “Spamming App” since they seem to like and support spammers so much.

A captive spammer audience of new SoftPress users eagerly awaits.

Any thoughts by any of the current freewaytalk registered spammers, what additional features would you most like to see to help you spam better?

;-)

Todd

15 Nov 2017, 6:29 pm

Here’s a thought: Give the Walter bashing a rest.

FWT is owned and operated by Softpress (or whatever entity now owns them) as such Softpress is ultimately responsible for the condition of this list, not Walter. But since Softpress is MIA Walter makes for an easy scapegoat. Right?

You’re not the only person here who finds the spam annoying, and on that point I agree with you. But perhaps instead of the ongoing and tiresome snarky, passive-aggressive bullying of Walter which I find more offensive than the spam, put that effort into contacting Softpress directly. And if that doesn’t yield the result you want then stop using FWT until the ship rights itself. Walter is not the problem, so stop treating him as one and get off his ass.

It really seems as though you derive a perverse pleasure in ripping on Walter when in fact your understandable frustration is misplaced. Please find a better way to express yourself that doesn’t involve demeaning other people, especially those who have given so much to many people here, including myself.

Todd

FreewayPro_User

15 Nov 2017, 7:13 pm

Interesting.

You could probably serve yourself well by using one of the many “ESSAY spammers” services. But thanks for speaking on behalf of waltd since he chose to not respond or speak for himself in the other thread, or the one before it.

Spam on Spammers, everyone is welcome.

FreewayPro_User

15 Nov 2017, 7:32 pm

Get in the spamming spirit !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8huXkSaL7o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdpsfBsN_Dg

Todd

15 Nov 2017, 7:33 pm

[Laughs] Thank you for not disappointing me with your oh-so-predictable juvenile response. And for proving my point.

Todd

FreewayPro_User

15 Nov 2017, 8:05 pm

Sometimes people see what they wanna see, but can’t see what they ought to see. The one sided glasses you wear must be laughable also, but hey you choose to wear them, who am I to say otherwise.

Thanks for spamming this thread … T O D D. Thats the spirit !

FreewayPro_User

15 Nov 2017, 10:07 pm

Joyous.

I just heard from a Nigerian prince who is willing to offer some “WOW Gold”, to help get this new app off the ground. One of the “Essay Spammers” is gonna put together a formal proposal, and a “Flash Spammer” was kind enough to offer and make an interactive presentation to go along with it. A “Gambling Spammer” offered to double the “WOW Gold”, but lets see how it goes first to see if that is really needed. Oh, also Todd one of the “Eyewear Spammers” is willing to look into your one sided issues, but she is kind of busy as she moonlights as a “Russian Bride Spammer”.

It will surely all work out here in FreewayTalk Spamdom though, no worries.

This app will be great, Spammers rejoice, come one, come all !

Joe Muscara

17 Nov 2017, 11:17 am

I agree completely with Todd, and if I were Walter, I would not respond to your bashing of him either.

Besides, I see your “name” on your posts and I think, “oh, this guy. Whoever he is. It seems pretty rude to be so self-righteous yet he doesn’t even use his real name nor show in any way who he might be. Classy.”

FreewayPro_User

17 Nov 2017, 2:15 pm

Ah, the old gang is all circling the wagons. Thats exemplarily of most of you sadly, the predictable herd, simply and blindly follows. Funny response though Joe, you may wish to worry less about me and instead making that “classy” “who’s on first skit” monochrome site of yours fully “responsive” in 2017.

More importantly yourself and everyone should instead be worried about Softpress who choses to have their name and brand associated with this Freewaytalk spam mess. Image is everything as they say. Softpress is certainly not doing themselves any favors in representing themselves as a “Spam Haven” when trying to make a comeback. After what was already a PR disaster of being stuck in the past and closing its doors and many users rightly moving on. But Softpress willingly just keeps taking on water and whistling as if all is well. Rowing haphazardly onward in the darkness, while the remaining users blindly cling to their life vests and pat each other on the back in ill-conceived solidarity.

Spam on Spammers. Spammers Rejoice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdpsfBsN_Dg

Trevreav

17 Nov 2017, 2:21 pm

what a pile of shit.

On 17 Nov 2017, at 14:15, FreewayPro_User <[email protected]> wrote:

Ah, the old gang is all circling the wagons. Thats exemplarily of most of you sadly, the predictable herd, simply and blindly follows. Funny response though Joe, you may wish to worry less about me and instead making that “classy” “who’s on first skit” monochrome site of yours fully “responsive” in 2017.

More importantly yourself and everyone should instead be worried about Softpress who choses to have their name and brand associated with this Freewaytalk spam mess. Image is everything as they say. Softpress is certainly not doing themselves any favors in representing themselves as a “Spam Haven” when trying to make a comeback. After what was already a PR disaster of being stuck in the past and closing its doors and many users rightly moving on. But Softpress willingly just keeps taking on water and whistling as if all is well. Rowing haphazardly onward in the darkness, while the remaining users blindly cling to their life vests and pat each other on the back in ill-conceived solidarity.

Spam on Spammers. Spammers Rejoice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdpsfBsN_Dg

All the best

TrevReav

Ho’way the lads

Trevreav

17 Nov 2017, 2:23 pm

I’m just wondering why you’ve come on here to wind people up - are you one of the spammers?

On 17 Nov 2017, at 14:15, FreewayPro_User <[email protected]> wrote:

Ah, the old gang is all circling the wagons. Thats exemplarily of most of you sadly, the predictable herd, simply and blindly follows. Funny response though Joe, you may wish to worry less about me and instead making that “classy” “who’s on first skit” monochrome site of yours fully “responsive” in 2017.

More importantly yourself and everyone should instead be worried about Softpress who choses to have their name and brand associated with this Freewaytalk spam mess. Image is everything as they say. Softpress is certainly not doing themselves any favors in representing themselves as a “Spam Haven” when trying to make a comeback. After what was already a PR disaster of being stuck in the past and closing its doors and many users rightly moving on. But Softpress willingly just keeps taking on water and whistling as if all is well. Rowing haphazardly onward in the darkness, while the remaining users blindly cling to their life vests and pat each other on the back in ill-conceived solidarity.

Spam on Spammers. Spammers Rejoice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdpsfBsN_Dg

All the best

TrevReav

Ho’way the lads

FreewayPro_User

17 Nov 2017, 2:31 pm

Quote: “what a pile of shit.” — Trevreav — 11/17/17

You should really consider adding that to your footer text right before stating “All the best”. It would make it more inclusive and representative of your actual persona.

Spam on Spammers. Spammers Rejoice.

Trevreav

17 Nov 2017, 2:48 pm

I love a good keyboard warrior, all mouth and no name.

What a pile of shit All the best Trev

On 17 Nov 2017, at 14:31, FreewayPro_User <[email protected]> wrote:

Quote: “what a pile of shit.” — Trevreav — 11/17/17

You should really consider adding that to your footer text right before stating “All the best”. It would make it more inclusive and representative of your actual persona.

Spam on Spammers. Spammers Rejoice.

All the best

TrevReav

Ho’way the lads

FreewayPro_User

17 Nov 2017, 2:55 pm

Maybe you should give the initial post you responded to another try with your comprehension skills and not your emotions. Thanks for the vulgarity though, as Joe likes to say “Classy”. Good use of your keyboard, except now your name “Trevreav” is attached to it.

Spam on Spammers. Spammers Rejoice.

Joe Muscara

19 Nov 2017, 12:15 pm

Keep hiding behind that username that I’m guessing is a lie. Keep bashing people and their work. You’ll make lots of friends that way.

It’s too bad the web end of this site works the way it does. If it were one of many true forums I use, I could simply block of hide your posts and never see them again. Oh well.

Have a nice life!

FreewayPro_User

19 Nov 2017, 3:28 pm

On 19 Nov 2017, 12:15 pm, Joe Muscara wrote:

It’s too bad the web end of this site works the way it does. If it were one of many true forums I use, I could simply block of hide your posts and never see them again. Oh well.

Todd mentioned earlier about “proving points”. Inadvertently, you just proved mine about FreewayTalk regarding it’s many vast feature inadequacies, that exceed far beyond just the glaring SPAM issue. Onward we go though, sacrificing many to appease a few, looking back instead of forward. Seems like “StuckWay” would be more fitting. ;-)

Spam on Spammers. Spammers Rejoice.

David Ledger

19 Nov 2017, 4:27 pm

On 19 Nov 2017, at 15:28, FreewayPro_User wrote:

Spam on Spammers. Spammers Rejoice.

‘FreewayPro_User’ hasn’t made a positive post yet, and nothing about web site creation at all. I think we can all deduce their purpose for being on this list.

Whoever this spammer is, they’re investing a lot of time, effort, and some money on targeting a very small number of people. Several spam posts are crafted around genuine posts, and they try to send us to a many different domains that have a range of apparently disconnected IP addresses. I haven’t investigated what these sites do. They can’t be getting many customers from their efforts here.

David

FreewayPro_User

19 Nov 2017, 5:11 pm

Detective David, it clearly seems your keen hypothesis is grossly incorrect and completely malformed in its theory. Interesting you tried so hard to deduce and craft your formulation of reason however. I give props for the effort. But sadly your ill-conceived notion has taken you down the wrong path, while the “real” and actual spammers remain at large freely posting and peddling here at FreewayTalk.

So Sadly it remains, Spam on Spammers. Spammers Rejoice.

David Ledger

19 Nov 2017, 5:46 pm

On 19 Nov 2017, at 17:11, FreewayPro_User wrote:

Detective David, it clearly seems your keen hypothesis is grossly incorrect and completely malformed in its theory. Interesting you tried so hard to deduce and craft your formulation of reason however. I give props for the effort. But sadly your ill-conceived notion has taken you down the wrong path, while the “real” and actual spammers remain at large freely posting and peddling here at FreewayTalk.

So Sadly it remains, Spam on Spammers. Spammers Rejoice.

Only the spammer would know that.

Touché.

David

Trevreav

19 Nov 2017, 5:47 pm

That ego…

On 19 Nov 2017, at 17:11, FreewayPro_User <[email protected]> wrote:

Detective David, it clearly seems your keen hypothesis is grossly incorrect and completely malformed in its theory. Interesting you tried so hard to deduce and craft your formulation of reason however. I give props for the effort. But sadly your ill-conceived notion has taken you down the wrong path, while the “real” and actual spammers remain at large freely posting and peddling here at FreewayTalk.

So Sadly it remains, Spam on Spammers. Spammers Rejoice.

All the best

TrevReav

Ho’way the lads

FreewayPro_User

19 Nov 2017, 6:06 pm

Are the blind leading the blind here or does the exhibited basic ignorance run this rampant among you?

Truly amazing. The mindset of this group seems to not warrant pointing out the obvious or seeking for improvement. Even through absurdity the Freeway crowd blindly clings together holding dearly to antiquated nostalgia. Maybe you are all just made for this mess and should just be left to wallow in it. Each holding dear to your false imaginations of glandular surrounding FreewayTalk and seemingly so much more.

Sadly, the core mindset of the Freeway users, are the bigger problem than the spammers themselves.

Thomas Kimmich

19 Nov 2017, 9:56 pm

The things happening in FWT are not necessarily to be called “Spam”. To my personal understanding, all that happens is the most ridiculous legal campaign ever created called “Backlinks”. You probably know the abuse of keywords? This is pretty much the same - just 10 years after.

Have you ever wondered how to make your brave local baker more relevant? I mean - to whom the f**k would you link him forth and back?

The answer is pretty simple: Seek for a forum (or talk) and speak about your baker. Something like “Finished my latest project - do you like pretzels?”

Now the problem and why I agree to the OP: This falls back on the entire audience and requires moderation. How to moderate FWT? No chance at all. It’s a mailing list. You can’t fire out or withdraw single comments in a bigger talk. You can either fire out the user at all or live with the current result.

You certainly recognized it: I backlinked as well. Now you can fire me and 2.5k comments will be deleted all the dialogues included. Or you can set up a discussion on a more civilized way - starting by the OP, going on with all commenters. Well - you may like “the first that comes along_user” or not but in one thing I agree:

Ignoring is not the solution!

Cheers

Thomas

Thomas Kimmich

Kimmich DigitalMedia

http://www.kimmich-digitalmedia.com

T.+49(0)7404-914 384

Somewhere in the South of Germany

FreewayPro_User

20 Nov 2017, 12:09 am

Thomas, finally a logical and sensible voice enters amidst the crowd.

Nice to know evidently a few remain with open eyes, sound minds and the ability to thoughtfully reason looking forward with expectation and demand of superior modern features and viable alternatives.

Thank you for having the courage and forethought to not blindly accept the broken normalcy and complacency here at FreewayTalk and desire better things for yourself and the common good of the entire Softpress community.

Imagine if this was instead the mindset of the majority of users, and what that could by contrast yield. Its good to know a few dare too not willingly accept normal, when they find it’s broken or no longer relevant.

Jeremy Hughes

21 Nov 2017, 4:20 pm

Hi,

Softpress does not encourage or support spammers. I haven’t seen this thread previously because I wasn’t subscribed to the Off Topic list, but I’ve noticed a small amount of spam on the main FreewayTalk list. I mark it as spam and ignore it.

If there are things that we can do to discourage spam, we’re happy to listen to suggestions. I think Walter is doing his best, and he certainly does a great job keeping these lists running.

I agree that spam is annoying!

Jeremy

Thomas Kimmich

21 Nov 2017, 9:46 pm

… but I’ve noticed a small amount of spam on the main FreewayTalk list. I mark it as spam and ignore it.

Whatever you put into your tea, do less! Staying abroad, clean your carpets, paint your walls, playing slot-machines or flash games are just a few? I’m not using the mail functionality - I’m watching the web interface. And I recognize this although I’m not an active Freeway user anymore.

But as a technical approach, one thing to do is

<a href="https://www.playflashgamesorcleanmycarpet.html" rel="nofollow">sign in</a>

to make “Spam or Backlinks” less attractive.

Cheers

Thomas

Thomas Kimmich

Kimmich DigitalMedia

http://www.kimmich-digitalmedia.com

T.+49(0)7404-914 384

Somewhere in the South of Germany

Jeremy Hughes

22 Nov 2017, 12:45 pm

Thanks Thomas - there does seem to be more spam on the Off Topic list than on the main list, and it’s probably more annoying with the web interface. Softpress is looking into this.

Jeremy

FreewayPro_User

22 Nov 2017, 3:06 pm

Thanks for getting involved Jeremy.

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nofollow would allow most search engines to not apply ranking benefits to spammers posted links. However it would not cease spammers from joining and posting links and general garbage information, or preventing possible naive click throughs of links. Unless they look at analytics and realize no benefit is being made, what would cease them from posting? The spam may be perceived more prevalent in Off Topic, but in Freeway Talk and elsewhere the spammers just get more discrete and less blatant than they do here. But it abounds everywhere, via links in posts or user posts made just to expose a footer link, garbage posts, etc., (I’m not speaking of actual users posting links or having links in footers).

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I previously suggested and discussed about switching to something more modern like Discourse in a few threads but was met with nothing but resistance to change and the lack of desire for moving forward regardless of benefits.

Seen Here: https://freewaytalk.softpress.com/thread/view/171938

Also here: https://freewaytalk.softpress.com/thread/view/171819#m_172266

And here: https://freewaytalk.softpress.com/thread/view/173232 (towards the bottom)

Etc.,

Beyond replacing and improving the core features people already enjoy about FreewayTalk, something like Discourse could also add so many other additional benefits for Softpress users and the Softpress image/brand as a whole. Much like the FreewayPro App previously, the time for applying bandaids and patches to FreewayTalk has come to a point of benefit vs future value and moving into the future beckons desperately by necessity. In those few threads I discussed some of the many benefits, but simply by reviewing Discourse further it should be self evident what all it could offer the community and Softpress.

It would also aid in various ways to stop, report, flag, prevent spam. Or additionally you can use things like the Discourse Akismet Plugin etc., for complete eradication upfront of spam activity. In so many ways it would offer a platform thats scaleable and feature rich to better meet the needs of users in todays marketplace and socially driven arena.

Forgive me for suggesting and desiring improvements that would benefit all users and the Softpress brand as a whole. I certainly meant no harm in doing so but never would have imagined being met with such staunch resistance and contempt towards the thought of improving and moving forward to better things. As a whole I can’t comprehend why change is so desperately sought to be avoided here by so many people.

Thanks again

Jeremy Hughes

29 Nov 2017, 9:41 pm

Thanks for these suggestions. I think Walter is looking into this. It’s interesting that you mention Discourse, because Apple said (earlier this year) that they’re planning to move the Swift discussion lists over to using this. They also said that they want people to be able to continue to participate through email, which is apparently supported by Discourse.

https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/Week-of-Mon-20170206/031657.html

That was in February though - maybe they’re waiting for improvements to Discourse before they go ahead?

Spam seems like is is an increasing problem with this particular forum (OffTopic) but it’s also getting onto the main forum.

FreewayPro_User

29 Nov 2017, 11:43 pm

I can’t speak for Apple’s reasoning.

But email works fine already with Discourse: Feed, Reply and Post, Monthly Updates, etc. Just pick a forum that uses Discourse and see it first hand yourself, would perhaps be the best way.

Discourse also offers many other modern features: https://www.discourse.org/features

Enough benefit, that having to learn new things would be worth it for the Softpress brand and its users.

Anything is better than representing Softpress with all this SPAM, especially as Softpress tries to make a comeback and project a “back in business” impression. Discourse would help solve that concerning the forum and provide a modern platform to represent Softpress and its users.

By contrast, I doubt Apple is concerned with their brand regarding the Swift Forum, they have done ok since almost going out of business in the mid 1990’s and never closed there doors. ;-)

FreewayPro_User

6 Dec 2017, 2:12 pm

On 29 Nov 2017, 9:41 pm, Jeremy Hughes wrote:

Spam seems like is is an increasing problem with this particular forum (OffTopic) but it’s also getting onto the main forum.

Perhaps you noticed, but the spammers appear to no longer worry about being discreet, now freely starting to post in the main Freeway section, etc.,

FreewayPro_User

6 Dec 2017, 2:14 pm

On 15 Nov 2017, 5:14 pm, FreewayPro_User wrote:

Any thoughts by any of the current freewaytalk registered spammers

A bit disappointed they wont actually join in here however. ;-)

FreewayPro_User

22 Dec 2017, 11:09 pm

I had to go back 5 pages of pagination to find this thread amidst, all the spam threads and posts.

Spam in a thread about Delta Dave passing away - https://freewaytalk.softpress.com/thread/view/173130

When does enough become enough? This is pathetic.

Thomas Kimmich

23 Dec 2017, 1:12 am

When does enough become enough? This is pathetic.

Nothing else to add!!!!!!! It’s degrading - and I feel ashamed being part of this so many years.

Thomas Kimmich

Kimmich DigitalMedia

http://www.kimmich-digitalmedia.com

T.+49(0)7404-914 384

Somewhere in the South of Germany

David Ledger

23 Dec 2017, 8:52 am

On 23 Dec 2017, at 1:12, Thomas Kimmich wrote:

When does enough become enough? This is pathetic.

Nothing else to add!!!!!!! It’s degrading - and I feel ashamed being part of this so many years.

I thought ‘loadlearn’ had obliquely admitted to being a prime spammer. He/she/it seems to have little other reason for being here.

David

FreewayPro_User

23 Dec 2017, 5:41 pm

@ “David Ledger”,

Its amazing given the sensitive subject matter nature of Delta Dave passing away, that you would feel its “OK” for spammers to spam that thread.

Your complete ignorance regarding this, is worse than the spammers whom did so. The fact that you have no issue with it speaks volumes regarding your personal character.

Perhaps think on that for a minute before you respond with more drivel. Your ignorance and insensitivity is beyond astonishing.

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Joe Muscara

29 Dec 2017, 1:44 pm

Happy now? You should be. Walter and Richard (Softpress) have done a great job and the place is cleaned up. No one thought the spam was okay, but no one in their right mind thought that anyone should have fixed it for free, either. (At least, I’m guessing Walter got paid for what he implemented. He should have been compensated for that project!)

Have a Great and Spam-free New Year!