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Frank H

22 May 2018, 5:12 pm

Intrinsic Web Design - article.

“Non-coders especially should pay attention to what’s going on with Intrinsic Web Design, precisely because it will change, and is already changing what is possible on the web. “

First time I have heard this term, refers to getting away from Java ‘hacks’.

Any comments?

https://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2018/05/a-simple-introduction-to-intrinsic-web-design/?ref=webdesignernews.com

waltd

22 May 2018, 8:25 pm

This is very apropos. I wonder if Jeremy has been looking in this direction for the next version of Freeway. In many ways, it would be a complete return to first principles for Freeway, since it started as a page-layout application. Every version along the way has been better and better ways to “dumb down” that object model into something a browser will understand. As browsers have gotten smarter, the resulting HTML has gotten smarter (goodbye tables, hello DIVs and floats). It would probably be a much shorter trip to Flexbox or better, Grid.

Walter

On May 22, 2018, at 1:12 PM, Frank H <[email protected]> wrote:

“Non-coders especially should pay attention to what’s going on with Intrinsic Web Design, precisely because it will change, and is already changing what is possible on the web. “

First time I have heard this term, refers to getting away from Java ‘hacks’.

Any comments?

https://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2018/05/a-simple-introduction-to-intrinsic-web-design/?ref=webdesignernews.com

Freeway user since 1997

http://www.walterdavisstudio.com

Frank H

23 May 2018, 4:06 am

Thank you for your comments Walter. Can’t wait to see what’s next.

Frank H

23 May 2018, 4:07 am

Now I have to check out what flexbox and grid are… :)

Chod Lang

23 May 2018, 2:29 pm

Ha, ha! I’m with you Frank (flexbox & grid)!

Robert

23 May 2018, 3:20 pm

I will be (pleasantly) surprised if SoftPress ever releases an update / revised version of Freeway that delivers on its original promise. Put another way, it WAY over promised what it could do. It was a great idea but could only deliver ‘simple’ websites if you didn’t know more than a few basics about coding. Several other offerings have swept well past what Freeway Pro ever was.

From the current SoftPress / Freeway Pro site… “Design sophisticated websites. Code Free.”                                        “…create HTML content without having to touch a line of code.”

I guess that all hinges on what one considers “sophisticated.” One of their current bullet points underscores their ‘ancient’ thinking. “…translate your original print layout.” This is exactly the problem Jen Simmons addresses. Website aren’t print and shouldn’t be limited to that mode of thinking. Among other shortcomings, where is the easy integration of CMS?

I don’t believe I’ve ever heard of any ‘sophisticated’ site ever having been built exclusively using Freeway Pro that NEVER touched a single line of code. Very cool concept — if SoftPress ever pulls it off. They’ve always been long on hype, short on delivery.

max

20 Jul 2018, 5:56 pm

Hi Robert
I thought I would recount a little bit of history which I think people have probably forgotten, or more likely don’t know.

Back when Freeway 1 had only just been launched.
A small design agency in Surrey created (what was then) a massively ambitious and sophisticated site. It was at the time groundbreaking for its innovative use of colour, visual effects, integration of animation, sound and immersive photography. This site when launched went ballistic, and when I mean ballistic and I really do mean BIG.
Within a few days of launching, BT contacted the agency on numerous occasions to find out what was going on, because millions of people were hitting the site which was on their servers day after day and reality they were utterly unprepared. There were TV and newspapers people from all around the world ringing for interviews and within a few weeks it had been shown and talked about all around the world on TV, Radio and Newspapers. Nothing like it had been seen before and the response was unprecedented, and as I mentioned at the beginning the software responsible for successfully delivering it was Freeway.

I will never forget that Freeway delivered ‘absolutely’ what it promised when other software such as PageMil just… didn’t.

Max

it’s better to be lucky than clever.. :o)

Richard Cacciato

6 Aug 2018, 2:18 pm

Max,

What was that site and its URL? Would love to see if there’s a saved version on archive.org.

Richard.

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Frank H

7 Aug 2018, 3:24 am

I would as well! I am sure everyone is sauve to the way back internet archieves. Perhaps it can be found there (one of my first sites is)!:

http://web.archive.org/