Intaglio

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Greg

10 Sep 2020, 12:26 am

Big Sur compatibility

Anyone running the beta and can confirm?

Sam Beale

23 Sep 2020, 4:49 pm

It doesn’t work with the OS11 betas that I’ve tried. The program launches but no windows appear, except for the sidebar.

Greg

23 Sep 2020, 8:47 pm

Inkscape doesn’t list dimensioning and scaling in its feature list.

Jack Jennings

23 Sep 2020, 8:59 pm

I tried Inscape and it doesn’t hold a candle to intaglio. I have not found any equivalent (but haven’t checked for years).

Jack

On Sep 23, 2020, at 4:47 PM, Greg <email@hidden> wrote:

Inkscape doesn’t list dimensioning and scaling in its feature list.

Eric Ridvan Üner

23 Sep 2020, 9:14 pm

Take a look at Affinity Designer. I’ve found all the features I needed, and it’s been just as simple to use for me. While they don’t yet specifically list Bug Sur compatibility, the product is popular and in active development.

As a long-time Intaglio user who was thrilled with the app, I’ve finally accepted it’s abandonware for whatever reason. I definitely got my money’s worth, and it was a great app - but I had to move on. I hope all is well with the developer.

John Whisman

23 Sep 2020, 9:19 pm

Thanks for the tip on Affinity. Was it easy to open, or transfer intaglio files to Affinity?

John Whisman 707-694-2380

On Sep 23, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Eric Ridvan Üner <email@hidden> wrote:

Take a look at Affinity Designer. I’ve found all the features I needed, and it’s been just as simple to use for me. While they don’t yet specifically list Bug Sur compatibility, the product is popular and in active development.

As a long-time Intaglio user who was thrilled with the app, I’ve finally accepted it’s abandonware for whatever reason. I definitely got my money’s worth, and it was a great app - but I had to move on. I hope all is well with the developer.

Greg

23 Sep 2020, 9:20 pm

Just glanced at EazyDraw (note spelling). Opened an exported SVG from Intaglio. Preserved layers which is important to me.

Tried to download from their webpage. Then tried AppStore and downloaded a demo version. Later found they have two websites eazydraw.com and eazydraw.net. The .net site is not current, the .com is.

$95 to buy and has subscription options. Only complain was that they had supported the app for years for free then without notice changed so you had to pay full price (although there was a developed response that suggested there might be a workaround).

Also from their site: “We’ll have you downloaded, licensed, and drawing in no time with our 9 month license ($20) or single user license available at our secure online store .

Our $20 trial license is a very popular option. You get a full use license, no limits or constraints, with free updates for 9 months. You may apply the $20 license fee toward the purchase of EazyDraw (download or Flash) anytime within the first 2 months.”

Looks like a more complete app than Intaglio, but I only have the demo version and can’t seem to do some things. Unless I see something better I’ll probably give it a go.

Eric Ridvan Üner

23 Sep 2020, 10:03 pm

I had no problems with and SVG and EPS files.

On Sep 23, 2020, at 4:49 PM, Frederick Bambrough <email@hidden> wrote:

In message <email@hidden> “Eric Ridvan Üner” <email@hidden> wrote:

Take a look at Affinity Designer. I’ve found all the features I needed, and it’s been just as simple to use for me. While they don’t yet specifically list Bug Sur compatibility, the product is popular and in active development.

As a long-time Intaglio user who was thrilled with the app, I’ve finally accepted it’s abandonware for whatever reason. I definitely got my money’s worth, and it was a great app - but I had to move on. I hope all is well with the developer.

Ooh, I forgat about Designer. There’s a free trial too so may be able to test for imports before buying. I already have Affinity Photo and that’s excellent.

Frank

23 Sep 2020, 10:37 pm

“Inkscape doesn’t list dimensioning and scaling in its feature list.” It has - even dynamically updating as a path-effect or with the “measurement-tool”. I have pretty much all Vector-editors available for macOS - I was lured when Serif promised AD to open Freehand files - which was a joke apparently. There are nice features and the UI is more modern - no question - but it takes just a few minutes and I´m back on my working-horse and that is a native Inkscape version from 2015. The latest native version 1.0 and 1.0.1 introduced to many issues regarding converting text+shapes+Boolean-operation. The feature set is unparalleled imho. I have no clue what happened to Nick Nallick - hope he´s fine - not talking to his audience; not so cool. I enjoyed Intaglio for more than 15 years and will keep it in my toolset. I find nothing opens quicker and is easier for annotation imagery - just my 2¢.

Greg

23 Sep 2020, 10:52 pm

Can you put dimensions on an Inkscape drawing? For example, like an architectural drawing or an engineering drawing?

On 23 Sep 2020, 10:37 pm, Frank wrote:

“Inkscape doesn’t list dimensioning and scaling in its feature list.” It has - even dynamically updating as a path-effect or with the “measurement-tool”.

Frank

24 Sep 2020, 5:46 am

Yes - for instance like so: https://i.postimg.cc/BQfzNhC0/Measure-Segments.gif

jacques

24 Sep 2020, 8:20 am

Hello, I had tried EasyDraw many many years ago, I found it was a fine software but I preferred and had bought Intaglio. Now Intaglio is almost dead. The question : how long will Affinity Designer be living ? how long X-draw ? Or Y-draw ?

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Le 24 sept. 2020 à 07:46, Frank <email@hidden> a écrit :

Yes - for instance like so: https://i.postimg.cc/BQfzNhC0/Measure-Segments.gif

jacques


iMacG5 20” — iBookG4 14” — MacOS X 10.4.9 — RagTime 6.0.2 (1632) — Intaglio 2.9.6 — ChemDraw 9.0.1

dave m

3 Oct 2020, 10:41 pm

Affintiy designer has a nice modern interface but does not have the ability to draw to scale or do measurements or dimensioning. It’s strictly for drawing for graphic design, not drafting.

I really hope that Intaglio is not dead, it’s a great program!

Carlo Beenakker

24 Nov 2020, 10:47 am

I am one of those who, regrettably, have to plan a migration from Intaglio towards a Big-Sur-compatible alternative. I am looking into Affinity, here is a brief list of things I had to learn in the change from Intaglio —> Affinity:

• duplicate: cmd-D —> cmd-J
• line tool —> choose the pen tool and select the line mode
• Apple color picker can be found in the View menu
• cmd-arrow —> shift-arrow (displacement distance can be set in the tools section of the preferences)
• to rescale by a certain percentage, say 150%: replace input field in the transform panel by 150%
• there is no arc tool
• there is no “select similar” functionality

Clark Guest

21 Dec 2020, 5:10 pm

Intaglio appears to be back! I’ve updated to MacOS 11.1 and have no problem opening the program, old files, new documents, using tools, etc. I haven’t conducted an exhaustive test, but so far so good. I’m using a 2016 15” MacBook Pro. I had purchased XDesign as an alternative. It had a few advantages over Intaglio, but also some glaring omissions. So glad I can stick with my trusty friend for a while longer.

Mike Powell

21 Dec 2020, 5:53 pm

I’m running Big Sur 11.0.1 and can use Intaglio 3.9.5 almost without problem.

I have some maps with large page sizes (eg 1500mm x 1200mm). When I open these documents I lose my page size and just get US Letter. I can reset this as a custom page size but, after a save and reopen, I’m back to US Letter.

Wonderful app. I like it so much, I’d pay money to see it receive ongoing maintenance.

Mike

Jack Jennings

21 Dec 2020, 5:55 pm

Perhaps we are all worrying too much. Intaglio is a 64-bit application and should work well with Big Sur, so Clark’s experience should not come as a surprise. It is a concern that Nick appears to have abandoned his “baby”, and its good to look for alternates, but for now I’m happy to learn that Clark had a good experience. I really don’t want to learn to use another drawing program when Intaglio ideally fits my needs.

On Dec 21, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Clark Guest <email@hidden> wrote:

Intaglio appears to be back! I’ve updated to MacOS 11.1 and have no problem opening the program, old files, new documents, using tools, etc. I haven’t conducted an exhaustive test, but so far so good. I’m using a 2016 15” MacBook Pro. I had purchased XDesign as an alternative. It had a few advantages over Intaglio, but also some glaring omissions. So glad I can stick with my trusty friend for a while longer.

Ian H

21 Dec 2020, 6:36 pm

I’m running Big Sur 11.1 and Intaglio 3.9.5a.

Whenever I open an Intaglio document, either from in the app or by double-clicking a file, no window appears.

File: New doesn’t do anything either.

So there are definitely problems with this combo.

John Whisman

21 Dec 2020, 6:36 pm

That’s great news for Clark but it’s still not working for me. I’m running 11.1 on a 2015 MacBook Pro.

John Whisman 707-694-2380

On Dec 21, 2020, at 12:56 PM, J Evans Jennings Jr. <email@hidden> wrote:

Perhaps we are all worrying too much. Intaglio is a 64-bit application and should work well with Big Sur, so Clark’s experience should not come as a surprise. It is a concern that Nick appears to have abandoned his “baby”, and its good to look for alternates, but for now I’m happy to learn that Clark had a good experience. I really don’t want to learn to use another drawing program when Intaglio ideally fits my needs.

On Dec 21, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Clark Guest <email@hidden> wrote:

Intaglio appears to be back! I’ve updated to MacOS 11.1 and have no problem opening the program, old files, new documents, using tools, etc. I haven’t conducted an exhaustive test, but so far so good. I’m using a 2016 15” MacBook Pro. I had purchased XDesign as an alternative. It had a few advantages over Intaglio, but also some glaring omissions. So glad I can stick with my trusty friend for a while longer.

John Whisman

21 Dec 2020, 6:38 pm

Clark- still not working for me. Which version of Intaglio are you running?

John Whisman 707-694-2380

On Dec 21, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Clark Guest <email@hidden> wrote:

Intaglio appears to be back! I’ve updated to MacOS 11.1 and have no problem opening the program, old files, new documents, using tools, etc. I haven’t conducted an exhaustive test, but so far so good. I’m using a 2016 15” MacBook Pro. I had purchased XDesign as an alternative. It had a few advantages over Intaglio, but also some glaring omissions. So glad I can stick with my trusty friend for a while longer.

Carlo Beenakker

21 Dec 2020, 8:08 pm

Hmm, I really hope this is the beginning of a solution, but here Intaglio 3.9.5 on MacOS 11.1 launches but then does not open either a new file or an old file…

Carlo Beenakker

21 Dec 2020, 8:11 pm

Ha, just after I posted this negative result, I clicked around a bit more, opened a “new workspace”, and somehow now it works, windows open, new and old. I’m unsure how this happened, but it is great news in these dark days!!!

Clark Guest

21 Dec 2020, 10:54 pm

Sorry to hear not everyone is having the same luck as me. I’m running version 3.9.5 of Intaglio. It shows on my disk as taking 18,820,943 bytes and a “Modified” date of Oct 17, 2017, don’t know if that means anything vis-a-vis revisions. I’ve used it a good bit more since I first posted and everything I try works. Happy to help others to get the same results, but there’s not much more I can think of. Sorry if I’m stating the obvious, but in a similar situation I would try disabling all system extensions, restarting, and try running Intaglio as the only open application. That’s not what I’m doing, but it might uncover the problem.

John Whisman

21 Dec 2020, 11:01 pm

Thanks a lot for sharing your experience and your willingness to help Clark. We all appreciate it!

John Whisman 707-694-2380

On Dec 21, 2020, at 5:55 PM, Clark Guest <email@hidden> wrote:

Sorry to hear not everyone is having the same luck as me. I’m running version 3.9.5 of Intaglio. It shows on my disk as taking 18,820,943 bytes and a “Modified” date of Oct 17, 2017, don’t know if that means anything vis-a-vis revisions. I’ve used it a good bit more since I first posted and everything I try works. Happy to help others to get the same results, but there’s not much more I can think of. Sorry if I’m stating the obvious, but in a similar situation I would try disabling all system extensions, restarting, and try running Intaglio as the only open application. That’s not what I’m doing, but it might uncover the problem.

Carlo Beenakker

22 Dec 2020, 7:16 am

I tried it on a second computer, which I had not yet upgraded: installed MacOS 11.1 , held my breath and …. yes, Intaglio opens as it should. What a relief…

John Whisman

22 Dec 2020, 1:22 pm

Thanks Carlo. What is a “new workspace?” Is that something I access from the Finder, or from within Intaglio once the app is open?

John Whisman 707-694-2380

On Dec 21, 2020, at 3:11 PM, Carlo Beenakker <email@hidden> wrote:

Ha, just after I posted this negative result, I clicked around a bit more, opened a “new workspace”, and somehow now it works, windows open, new and old. I’m unsure how this happened, but it is great news in these dark days!!!

Ian H

22 Dec 2020, 3:23 pm

In Intaglio go: Window : Workspace : New workspace…

I have tried this and I still doesn’t work for me.

Carlo Beenakker

30 Dec 2020, 9:23 am

one more update: I had the opportunity to check out whether Intaglio would run on a computer that had no yet upgraded to MacOS 11.1, but was still running the first Big Sur version 11.0.1. Intaglio did not open any window initially, but after doing the “new workspace” magic, an Intaglio window opens and also existing Intaglio documents open.

Greg

31 Dec 2020, 5:55 am

On 21 Dec 2020, 8:11 pm, Carlo Beenakker wrote:

Ha, just after I posted this negative result, I clicked around a bit more, opened a “new workspace”, and somehow now it works, windows open, new and old. I’m unsure how this happened, but it is great news in these dark days!!!

I opened a New Workspace and name it “Big Sur.” Didn’t work. BUT after a relaunch of Intaglio, all seems to work.

Thanks for the suggestion. I am liking EazyDraw, but it’s more complicated and costs a bit. But much more drafting capability.

Carlo Beenakker

5 Jan 2021, 10:28 pm

another trick (alternative to this “new workspace” thing), mentioned on the Apple Support Forum:

Click on Intaglio application and “get info”.
Click on “Open in Low Resolution”
Open Intaglio: it works!
Close intaglio and untick “Open in Low Resolution”
After this, Intaglio opens normally, recognises all previous documents and works as expected.

Mike M

3 Feb 2021, 7:06 am

For me, getting Intaglio to work under Big Sur seemed to involve choosing the “Floating Windows” option under Window > Workspace. I think that is what did it…

I am sorry to see Intaglio not being updated. I just planned and managed my house remodel with it, it did a great job, many many scale drawings.

I am heartened some by the reappearance of an old piece of software I used more than a decade ago, Canvas. Canvas for Mac had died for some time, but now it is back. Canvas X Draw. $99/yr. I’ve just started playing with a trial. So far so good: it opened a 2008 Canvas file fully intact.

Ian H

3 Feb 2021, 7:34 am

You are a star! That floating windows trick worked for me!

Thanks! I can now transfer all my stuff over to Affinity Designer.

On 3 Feb 2021, at 07:06, Mike M <email@hidden> wrote:

For me, getting Intaglio to work under Big Sur seemed to involve choosing the “Floating Windows” option under Window > Workspace. I think that is what did it…

I am sorry to see Intaglio not being updated. I just planned and managed my house remodel with it, it did a great job, many many scale drawings.

I am heartened some by the reappearance of an old piece of software I used more than a decade ago, Canvas. Canvas for Mac had died for some time, but now it is back. Canvas X Draw. $99/yr. I’ve just started playing with a trial. So far so good: it opened a 2008 Canvas file fully intact.

Sam Beale

3 Feb 2021, 3:06 pm

Bingo!! The Floating Windows option did the trick for me. However, I had to re-launch Intaglio before it started working. Many Thanks to all who contributed to this thread.

Greg

3 Feb 2021, 4:21 pm

On 3 Feb 2021, 7:06 am, Mike M wrote:

I am heartened some by the reappearance of an old piece of software I used more than a decade ago, Canvas. Canvas for Mac had died for some time, but now it is back. Canvas X Draw. $99/yr. I’ve just started playing with a trial. So far so good: it opened a 2008 Canvas file fully intact.

Maybe there is hope for Intaglio if someone can pick it up.

I used Canvas before Intaglio. If I remember it was much more powerful program. But the new one better be good at $100/year. But maybe that will keep it alive. $40 one time for a program of this type is unlikely to support a developer. EazyDraw is about $100 one time and if that works for five years I’m OK with that.

Michael Polda

7 Feb 2021, 5:09 am

I thought I was the first to find a fix, but I see someone else already mentioned it. Changing the workspace to floating windows did the trick, thank goodness! I haven’t found another application that comes close to Intaglio. I’ve tried calling the developer several times and left messages, but he doesn’t respond. I’d happily pay for an upgrade.

Mike O'Connor

13 Feb 2021, 6:43 pm

Just to confirm what my learned colleagues have posted. Using Mac Big Sur 11.2.1 and Intaglio 3.9.5a.

On starting Intaglio, at first no window will open. Under the ‘Windows’ > ‘Workspace’ select ‘floating windows’ Leave Intaglio then restart it.

After this arcane ritual Intaglio seems to work as before.

Likewise Applications>Intaglio>File>Get Info>open in low resolution seems to work as well.

I have not checked every feature.

Sam Beale

13 Feb 2021, 6:46 pm

Could someone please explain the difference between versions 3.9.5 and 3.9.5a? Where is 3.9.5a available for downloading? Thanks.

budspwr

13 Feb 2021, 6:58 pm

Sorry Mike but this does not work for me. Plus, I have no idea where 3.9.5a is or if it can be downloaded. I’ve tried the Floating Windows thing some time ago w/o any luck whatsoever.

Bud Willner

On Feb 13, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Mike O’Connor <email@hidden> wrote:

Just to confirm what my learned colleagues have posted. Using Mac Big Sur 11.2.1 and Intaglio 3.9.5a.

On starting Intaglio, at first no window will open. Under the ‘Windows’ > ‘Workspace’ select ‘floating windows’ Leave Intaglio then restart it.

After this arcane ritual Intaglio seems to work as before.

Likewise Applications>Intaglio>File>Get Info>open in low resolution seems to work as well.

I have not checked every feature.

Carlo Beenakker

13 Feb 2021, 7:06 pm

Intaglio 3.9.5 works for me on Big Sur 11.2.1, I don’t think the version 3.9.5a is needed. All features are fully functional.

budspwr

13 Feb 2021, 7:09 pm

Mine will not even open Intagio drawings. Sorry.

Bud Willner

On Feb 13, 2021, at 2:06 PM, Carlo Beenakker <email@hidden> wrote:

Intaglio 3.9.5 works for me on Big Sur 11.2.1, I don’t think the version 3.9.5a is needed. All features are fully functional.

Greg

13 Feb 2021, 7:45 pm

Floating windows plus relaunch of Intaglio still working. Floating windows alone doesn’t do it for me.

That said, a work around like this doesn’t bod well for the future or other unforeseen problems cropping up.

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budspwr

13 Feb 2021, 7:52 pm

Relaunch does not do it for me.

Bud Willner

On Feb 13, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Greg <email@hidden> wrote:

Floating windows plus relaunch of Intaglio still working. Floating windows alone doesn’t do it for me.

That said, a work around like this doesn’t bod well for the future or other unforeseen problems cropping up.