Intaglio

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Tom Fenn

3 Feb 2011, 9:44 am

OT Eazydraw very cheap right now (on the App Store)

Hi list.

Sorry for the conflict of information (psuedo-spam), I love Intaglio, but I’ve never really got into Eazydraw because of its price.

But on the new Mac Appstore, Eazydraw is currently $15!!

Eazydraw and Intaglio? Together let’s crack the Adobe empire!! ;)

Tom

smile, as tomorrow may never arrive!

Jack Jennings

3 Feb 2011, 6:56 pm

As a registered used of EasyDraw, I can attest that it is no bargain, even at $15. Intaglio is MUCH better.

Jack

Hi list.

Sorry for the conflict of information (psuedo-spam), I love Intaglio, but I’ve never really got into Eazydraw because of its price.

But on the new Mac Appstore, Eazydraw is currently $15!!

Eazydraw and Intaglio? Together let’s crack the Adobe empire!! ;)

Tom

Tom Fenn

3 Feb 2011, 7:34 pm

Why?

What are your reasons? On 3 Feb 2011, at 19:56, Jack Jennings wrote:

As a registered used of EasyDraw, I can attest that it is no bargain, even at $15.

smile, as tomorrow may never arrive!

Jack Jennings

3 Feb 2011, 8:04 pm

Mostly I found EasyDraw to be so different from ClarisDraw that it was difficult for me to learn. Its interface is difficult. beyond this: MacDraw conversions full of flaws Grouped objects do not rotate as group when rotated but flip and change position Scaling changes when ClarisDraw scaled drawings are imported. Limited type formatting capabilities Complex imported drawing have pieces missing, some become invisible. Colors of imported drawings misinterpreted.

There were some other things I didn’t like but it’s been over three years since I touched EasyDraw and I’ve forgotten them.

Jack

Why?

What are your reasons? On 3 Feb 2011, at 19:56, Jack Jennings wrote:

As a registered used of EasyDraw, I can attest that it is no bargain, even at $15.

IanB

3 Feb 2011, 8:54 pm

I tried it 5 years ago and didn’t like it. The latest version is marginally better, but it’s still too complicated with shed-loads of features of dubious usefulness. The long menus with numerous sub-menus are confusing. Some features are also in the button bar, but the icons are too small.

The really useful features; text on a path, Convert text to paths, vector stroke effects, vector blends, all of which have been around forever in Illustrator and (pre OSX) Freehand, are missing.

There are some nice touches. The gradient adjuster and the range of graduated effects is better than Intaglio’s hit and miss method and the method used for rotating/scaling is very good.

At $15, you can’t complain, but the unnecessary complexity just gets in the way. I doubt if I’d ever get anything done!

Laurent Glaenzer

3 Feb 2011, 9:08 pm

I personally love Sketch as well. Also available in the AppStore.

Le 3 févr. 2011 à 20:56, Jack Jennings a écrit :

As a registered used of EasyDraw, I can attest that it is no bargain, even at $15. Intaglio is MUCH better.

Jack

Hi list.

Sorry for the conflict of information (psuedo-spam), I love Intaglio, but I’ve never really got into Eazydraw because of its price.

But on the new Mac Appstore, Eazydraw is currently $15!!

Eazydraw and Intaglio? Together let’s crack the Adobe empire!! ;)

Tom

Tom Fenn

3 Feb 2011, 9:38 pm

Comic Life is another winner for me. I bought Comic Life 2, which is a big improvement over v1.5

I’m using a mixture of Comic Life, SketchUp, Pixelmator and Intaglio to do instructional sheets right now.

Good tools. Very good.

It’s interesting that both Jack and Ian haven’t really used EazyDraw for a while. I do understand Ian’s concern about the complexity (simplicity is something I really love about Intaglio), but having never used ClarisDraw, I can’t comment on that Jack. But I do think it was a little silly to remark that you would never buy a product even if it were only a measly $15.

On 3 Feb 2011, at 22:07, Laurent Glaenzer wrote:

I personally love Sketch as well. Also available in the AppStore.

smile, as tomorrow may never arrive!

Julius

3 Feb 2011, 10:09 pm

On 3 Feb 2011, at 21:54, IanB wrote:

I tried it 5 years ago and didn’t like it. The latest version is marginally better, but it’s still too complicated with shed-loads of features of dubious usefulness. The long menus with numerous sub-menus are confusing. Some features are also in the button bar, but the icons are too small.

The really useful features; text on a path, Convert text to paths, vector stroke effects, vector blends, all of which have been around forever in Illustrator and (pre OSX) Freehand, are missing.

There are some nice touches. The gradient adjuster and the range of graduated effects is better than Intaglio’s hit and miss method and the method used for rotating/scaling is very good.

At $15, you can’t complain, but the unnecessary complexity just gets in the way. I doubt if I’d ever get anything done!

Largely I agree however there are a number of features for which Eazydraw is to me invaluable.

I use both Intaglio and Eazydraw to provide software documentation and also importantly to create test data for graphics programs. Test data generation is my reason for using Eazydraw. It provides me with - a coordinate system with Y increasing from bottom of page, - easy copy and paste of the x,y coordinates of points - easy copy and paste of vector angles in radians.

These few features have saved me oodles of time and I could not be without them.

Julius

http://juliuspaintings.co.uk

Julie

18 Feb 2011, 11:21 am

When I’m drawing a shape that includes both curves and straight lines, how do I get a straight line after a curve? Once I draw the curve, I can’t seem to get the pen tool back to straight-line mode. Am I using the wrong tool?

Julie

Frank

18 Feb 2011, 12:04 pm

Are you talking about Intaglio or EazyDraw? In Intaglio hold alt-key down while manipulating the point.

Cheers

Julie

18 Feb 2011, 12:23 pm

Intaglio. Will try it. Thanks. -j

On Feb 18, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Frank wrote:

Are you talking about Intaglio or EazyDraw? In Intaglio hold alt-key down while manipulating the point.

Cheers

Julie

18 Feb 2011, 12:52 pm

Have tried it. If I draw a vertical line, then a slanted line, then a curve, then hold down the alt (option) key and click, what I get is another curve. What have I missed?

And BTW, where do you get the info about this stuff. I think I read everything in the manual about the pen tool and drawing lines and curves, but if there’s any mention of the option key, I totally missed it.

Confused.

-j

On Feb 18, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Frank wrote:

Are you talking about Intaglio or EazyDraw? In Intaglio hold alt-key down while manipulating the point.

Cheers

Frank

18 Feb 2011, 5:43 pm

On 18 Feb 2011, 12:52 pm, Julie wrote:

And BTW, where do you get the info about this stuff. I think I read everything in the manual about the pen tool and drawing lines and curves, but if there’s any mention of the option key, I totally missed it.

Maybe 20 years in Béziers-drawing came to fruition. ;-) You should have a play with it: Simply clicking to draw a polygon. hold Shift key down to contraint angles and try the same. Click&drag to generate curves. Hold alt key down to grab a handle from a curve to make it an edge - hold shift key down to constraint to 45° or 90° angles - click to extend path. Hold alt key down to close a path at the starting point. If you need a video on this - let me know.

Cheers

Frank

swimmer35

18 Feb 2011, 5:47 pm

I would like one - Sorry to interrupt. I would like to get to know intaglio a bit better.

J

On Feb 18, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Frank wrote:

On 18 Feb 2011, 12:52 pm, Julie wrote:

And BTW, where do you get the info about this stuff. I think I read everything in the manual about the pen tool and drawing lines and curves, but if there’s any mention of the option key, I totally missed it.

Maybe 20 years in Béziers-drawing came to fruition. ;-) You should have a play with it: Simply clicking to draw a polygon. hold Shift key down to contraint angles and try the same. Click&drag to generate curves. Hold alt key down to grab a handle from a curve to make it an edge - hold shift key down to constraint to 45° or 90° angles - click to extend path. Hold alt key down to close a path at the starting point. If you need a video on this - let me know.

Cheers

Frank

Frank

18 Feb 2011, 6:11 pm

So here you go: http://www.screencast.com/t/6JfSFEWFha Essential is not to release the left mouse button unless you´re up to introduce a new point - so while holding it pressed you can hit shift/alt key to either constraint or not the next step.

Cheers

Frank

swimmer35

18 Feb 2011, 6:48 pm

Thank you

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 18, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Frank <email@hidden> wrote:

So here you go: http://www.screencast.com/t/6JfSFEWFha Essential is not to release the left mouse button unless you´re up to introduce a new point - so while holding it pressed you can hit shift/alt key to either constraint or not the next step.

Cheers

Frank

Frank

21 Feb 2011, 10:42 am

Frank,

“KeyReveal”? Where did you get that from? What a useful tool!

The video is excellent, although I probably would have liked to have heard some voice narration too. I often see videos with people circling or waving around tools, or certain functions, but I haven’t a clue who or what they are pointing at (because mostly the text that the tool is hovering over, is far too blurred or small).

I’m quite surprised that Purgatory haven’t any video tutorials like this on their website :? But then perhaps I’m not surprised either?- development is very hard work- especially when you have those who want your software for free, or you have another main job, not or including a family and mortgage to support!

Frank, lastly, why use Jing, and not YouTube?

regards,

Tom

Hi Tom For some reason your reply didn´t show up here in the forum. Seemed to be a database hick-up where user visit records got a reset.

“KeyReveal” is coded by a Cheetah3d user. You can grab it here: http://loewald.com/keyreveal/

Sorry for the missing sound in my video - but as you may have guessed English is not my native language and I didn´t meant to make a mockery of myself. Usually when I get requests (and get paid or at least donated) for video tutorials I use other screenrecord-apps that allow me to edit the footage with text/subtitles. But this is a lot more work. Hopefully in this case it worked out the way it is. I have an YouTube account but I don´t like how they mix QuickTime content with flash and how spammers chatter your site. So Screencast.com works better for me because I can upload whatever I like and I prefer Quicktime- if you´re going serious I highly recommend Vimeo. Great content and community - very pro.

Kind regards,

Frank

kofoid

21 Nov 2011, 8:38 pm

I’m afraid I’m a little late on this thread.

http://www.screencast.com/t/6JfSFEWFha takes me to a password protected page. How do I view the video?

Frank

21 Nov 2011, 9:59 pm

Content is available again. Check link again.

Cheers

Frank

Sam Liones

7 Aug 2021, 6:51 pm

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Jack Jennings

8 Aug 2021, 12:25 am

To all:

I think a lot of on this mail list would be interested in a review from an Intaglio user who has switched to Easy Draw. What does Intaglio have that EasyDraw doesn’t? What does EAayDraw have that Intaglio doesn’t? Comments on learning curve, stability, etc, would be welcome. As more time passes, it appears increasingly difficult to believe that author Nick might come to our rescue so we must look for alternates.

Any one out there who can help us?

Jack

On Aug 7, 2021, at 2:51 PM, Sam Liones <email@hidden> wrote:

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Greg

8 Aug 2021, 12:41 am

EazyDraw (not EasyDraw, would have been nice if this was the spelling) is much more powerful and it almost goes without saying more difficult to use. I bought it several months ago and used a bit but haven’t had a need as of late. If it’s really $15 give it a try. And it can import Intaglio drawings via an export to SVG. I forget how, but I think it’s here in another thread. Do it while you still can use Intaglio. Note that this thread is mostly 10 years old and I think the product has grown since then. And people now are willing to pay rather than use a crack.

My main use case is plans for our existing house and occasional small dimensioned projects. EazyDraw feels a bit more like a proper CAD program.

Nick is not coming back, nor is the program (If you believe otherwise I’ve got a bridge to sell). A couple of years ago I found some reference to him somewhere as a software engr. He’s abandoned the website. This site exists AFAIK because of softpress, not Intaglio.

Jack Jennings

8 Aug 2021, 12:56 am

Hi Greg, Sorry about the typo. EasyDraw in not $15.00. This is the current price list: $139 with Manual

$119 on USB stick

$95 for download

$20 for 9 month subscription

Jack

On Aug 7, 2021, at 8:41 PM, Greg <email@hidden> wrote:

EazyDraw (not EasyDraw, would have been nice if this was the spelling) is much more powerful and it almost goes without saying more difficult to use. I bought it several months ago and used a bit but haven’t had a need as of late. If it’s really $15 give it a try. And it can import Intaglio drawings via an export to SVG. I forget how, but I think it’s here in another thread. Do it while you still can use Intaglio. Note that this thread is mostly 10 years old and I think the product has grown since then. And people now are willing to pay rather than use a crack.

My main use case is plans for our existing house and occasional small dimensioned projects. EazyDraw feels a bit more like a proper CAD program.

Nick is not coming back, nor is the program (If you believe otherwise I’ve got a bridge to sell). A couple of years ago I found some reference to him somewhere as a software engr. He’s abandoned the website. This site exists AFAIK because of softpress, not Intaglio.

Schremmer

8 Aug 2021, 4:45 pm

On Aug 7, 2021, at 20:25, J Evans Jennings Jr. <email@hidden> wrote:

What does Intaglio have that EasyDraw doesn’t?

No idea, but in my case, I have a huge number of Intaglio drawings as figures in many books. So, switching is out of the question for me.

Best

Jean Haydel

8 Aug 2021, 6:49 pm

I plan to use EazyDraw reduced $ offer to Intaglio users next week. After that I will report back.

Sent from RO-CH13

On Aug 8, 2021, at 11:46 AM, Alain Schremmer <email@hidden> wrote:



On Aug 7, 2021, at 20:25, J Evans Jennings Jr. <email@hidden> wrote:

What does Intaglio have that EasyDraw doesn’t?

No idea, but in my case, I have a huge number of Intaglio drawings as figures in many books. So, switching is out of the question for me.

Best —schremmer

Ian H

8 Aug 2021, 6:53 pm

I would recommend saving the Intaglio figures as PDFs, just in case an OS update or something else knocks out Intaglio.

That way you have a route to get the files into many editing packages.

Ian.

On 8 Aug 2021, at 17:45, Alain Schremmer <email@hidden> wrote:



On Aug 7, 2021, at 20:25, J Evans Jennings Jr. <email@hidden> wrote:

What does Intaglio have that EasyDraw doesn’t?

No idea, but in my case, I have a huge number of Intaglio drawings as figures in many books. So, switching is out of the question for me.

Best —schremmer

Jack Jennings

8 Aug 2021, 7:10 pm

Jean, Looking forward to your report!

Jack

On Aug 8, 2021, at 2:49 PM, Jean Haydel <email@hidden> wrote:

I plan to use EazyDraw reduced $ offer to Intaglio users next week. After that I will report back.

Sent from RO-CH13

On Aug 8, 2021, at 11:46 AM, Alain Schremmer <email@hidden> wrote:



On Aug 7, 2021, at 20:25, J Evans Jennings Jr. <email@hidden> wrote:

What does Intaglio have that EasyDraw doesn’t?

No idea, but in my case, I have a huge number of Intaglio drawings as figures in many books. So, switching is out of the question for me.

Best —schremmer

Ingemar Ragnemalm

8 Aug 2021, 7:34 pm

OS update knocks out Intaglio? Don’t you make proper system backups? If that happens to me, I boot from the backup and do the transition from there.

Saving everything valuable as PDF as another kind of backup is sensible, but the system backup will save you the trouble until it is needed.

/Ingemar

Den 2021-08-08 kl. 20:52, skrev Haywire:

I would recommend saving the Intaglio figures as PDFs, just in case an OS update or something else knocks out Intaglio.

That way you have a route to get the files into many editing packages.

Ian.

On 8 Aug 2021, at 17:45, Alain Schremmer <email@hidden> wrote:



On Aug 7, 2021, at 20:25, J Evans Jennings Jr. <email@hidden> wrote:

What does Intaglio have that EasyDraw doesn’t? No idea, but in my case, I have a huge number of Intaglio drawings as figures in many books. So, switching is out of the question for me.

Best —schremmer

Schremmer

8 Aug 2021, 7:54 pm

I do have pdfs of my intaglio drawings if only because that is what you need to include in latex. But I still need the Intaglio drawings for when I need to edit. And, at my age, I sure have better things to do than to learn how to edit pdfs. But thanks anyway.

So, all I wanted to say is why I will stick with Intaglio and that, maybe, some people may not really need to switch either. Depends on how you are using it and I can see why some people could be getting nervous.

On Aug 8, 2021, at 14:52, Haywire <email@hidden> wrote:

I would recommend saving the Intaglio figures as PDFs, just in case an OS update or something else knocks out Intaglio.

That way you have a route to get the files into many editing packages.

Ian.

On 8 Aug 2021, at 17:45, Alain Schremmer <email@hidden> wrote:



On Aug 7, 2021, at 20:25, J Evans Jennings Jr. <email@hidden> wrote:

What does Intaglio have that EasyDraw doesn’t?

No idea, but in my case, I have a huge number of Intaglio drawings as figures in many books. So, switching is out of the question for me.

Best —schremmer

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Ingemar Ragnemalm

9 Aug 2021, 5:12 am

This is my view too on this as well as other software with uncertain future. It works for me, now. There is no reason for me to panic. I keep my eye open for alternatives, I know some alternatives, but I will not take that work until I need to.

I am already using some abandoned software. All I need is to keep a system installation where it works. Intaglio still works on my main system. No rush. I can make a transition when I need to, or even more optimally, when I feel like it, when I find an alternative that is better, for me. This is like when I transitioned to Intaglio. I was using some discontinued software, and had been checking out a dozen alternatives. Intaglio was the best, clearly better than the old program. That’s the time to switch.

Will EazyDraw or Affinity Designer be that step up, or just a replacement, for me? It takes time to figure that out.

I have seen similar reactions on other software when the developer goes silent. Why do they do that, why not officially make us know the situation? Discontinued, delayed, whatever. And the users panic, as if the program didn’t work. It works!

/Ingemar

Den 2021-08-08 kl. 21:54, skrev Alain Schremmer:

I do have pdfs of my intaglio drawings if only because that is what you need to include in latex. But I still need the Intaglio drawings for when I need to edit. And, at my age, I sure have better things to do than to learn how to edit pdfs. But thanks anyway.

So, all I wanted to say is why I will stick with Intaglio and that, maybe, some people may not really need to switch either. Depends on how you are using it and I can see why some people could be getting nervous.

On Aug 8, 2021, at 14:52, Haywire <email@hidden> wrote:

I would recommend saving the Intaglio figures as PDFs, just in case an OS update or something else knocks out Intaglio.

That way you have a route to get the files into many editing packages.

Ian.

On 8 Aug 2021, at 17:45, Alain Schremmer <email@hidden> wrote:



On Aug 7, 2021, at 20:25, J Evans Jennings Jr. <email@hidden> wrote:

What does Intaglio have that EasyDraw doesn’t? No idea, but in my case, I have a huge number of Intaglio drawings as figures in many books. So, switching is out of the question for me.

Best —schremmer